my overall point is, and unfortunately we have not seen this in the past few years, steve is coming more from the right than from my side, but the overall bank is that both sides are born to half to be willing to take on a significant amount of pain. i hope the willingness is there in order to make the grand bargain as they say. a great show, thank you very much host: thank you. guest: adding the caller makes a great point. for there to be a compromise, with the want to say is they want to see them change the entitlement programs. these are medicare, medicaid, potentially social security, although there's less clamoring to change that. want to see those programs changed so they are not just these open-ended things were the costs go up. went to see them reforms. so that does not keep adding to the deficit and increasing the federal budget. but the democrats want to see more revenue. want to see higher tax rates, they want republicans to agree to that. for this to be this big grand deal, both sides will have to come to an agreement. host: nancy has a recent story with this headline. someon